Monday, September 26, 2016

A lot of opinions out there but this is a different one

This link was interesting to me. I don't plan to comment on it unless someone here comments, but it was interesting to me as to his reasoning.

10 comments:

Ingineer66 said...

Wow I am shocked that such a liberal guy is using his brain when it comes to this decision. I heard her estate tax plan over the weekend and I thought the same thing about it. My estate will likely never be worth $5million, but it is still a horrible idea. As you know the estate tax hits family farms hard. There have been several in this area that have been sold to giant corporate operations because the estate tax was such a burden. There are also families that had to take out large loans to pay off the estate tax and retain ownership. This leaves less money for capital improvements, new equipment, hiring workers etc. Those are things that really improve the economy and peoples lives and I think Trump understands that way better than Hillary and her liberal special interest masters.

Rain Trueax said...

Yes, the left has no clue what that does in terms of keeping wealth in the hands of the richest.

Ingineer66 said...

So do you think it is better that the government gets it? And the family farms get sold off to corporations?

Rain Trueax said...

You know that I don't. I watched the debate and knew the left would declare Hillary the total winner but they base it on slickness not on ideas. We watched it and felt they both got across ideas but liked his more. The problem with him, for me, is the Supreme Court and who he'd appoint as a strong rightie like Scalia. On the other hand, I won't like her picks either if they try to undo the 2nd Amendment to overly regulate guns. I am fine with reasonable regulations on guns but Hillary is like many lefties and wants them all gone-- except from the military and police, i guess.

Rain Trueax said...

It's a bummer to be a moderate in a season like this one lol

Ingineer66 said...

I didn't think you did, but I wasn't sure after reading your comment. I have been reading lots of left wing stuff lately and misunderstood what you said.
We watched most of it. Couldn't take any more of either of them after a while. I thought Trump started strong but did poorly on many topics. He had opportunities to show how she is wrong for the country and missed them. She said 2 things that I know were blatantly false but Lester Holt only tried to fact check Trump.

Ingineer66 said...

I honesty believe if Trump gets in, he will be more moderate and better for the entire country than people think. I think most people want background checks, but don't try to take the guns that they already own and that is what Hillary will try. California is passing laws where you won't even be able to pass your guns down to your children. They are trying everything they can to go after law abiding citizens while trying to pass more laws to let more violent criminals out of prison. It makes no sense. Crime is up 25% here and they want to make it worse.

Rain Trueax said...

what I meant with that comment was it keeps wealth in the hands of the wealthiest and prevents moving up for families that aren't already there.

My husband is thinking of voting for Trump. He wants a change and knows Hillary won't do it. My concern is who Trump would appoint to the Court. I don't want someone in there who rewrites Roe v. Wade. But the gun deal is an issue for me also. I don't think Obama is right on the trade deal. I think Hillary has too much of a one world view and is way too prone to think we should get involved in overseas wars. I believe in nations and borders. Trump says a lot of things that appeal to us in terms of jobs and trade deals but he's such a loose cannon. Hillary though has been a liar too many times including in the debate last night. A lot of the things they say Trump lies about are more that they ignore all of what he said.

Very frustrating voting season for me. And I have had more left wingers insult me for not bowing before Hillary. I've had to block over and over at Facebook and mostly on lefties who really hate Trump. What a season is all I can say :(.

Ingineer66 said...

That is really what I mean when I say he will be more moderate is, I think he is pro choice, but had to say otherwise to get the nomination. Kind of like Obama had to say he was against gay marriage to get elected. What a mess.
And yes it keeps the money in the wealthy families, but those wealthy families invest and create jobs and people work hard and start buying into the companies and farms and become wealthy themselves. Taking the money and closing the doors to the company doesn't make anybody wealthy. Except maybe the politicians that sell the favors like The Clintons have done.

Rain Trueax said...

I think the wealthy families do not get dinged by estate taxes. I very much disagree with Clinton's proposal to take 65% of an estate after say $5 million. By the time she gets it set up, it'll likely be lower. It does hurt small businesses and ranches, where the kids cannot afford to keep the operations going after taxes are paid. It keeps those who are well off from ever joining the wealthiest and being able to protect their fortune by setting up foundations. Estate taxes are taxes on death and intended to break up wealthy family holdings (societal engineering)-- except it only works on those on the way up.

The problem with Trump is he said he'd appoint another Scalia to the court if he gets the chance. That would mean an attack on women's right to choice.

The other thing with Trump is he really has no idea how limited his power will be on many things if he gets in. There are those who say he doesn't understand politics. I think that's what a lot, who are voting for him, want-- someone outside. This might be the country's only chance. It's not easy to come from outside and he still has the establishment right and left attacking him because he's not one of them.

The media has been almost diabolical in their attack on him, painting him a racist, misogynist, bigot, fake, etc. And they pick out one thing to do it with many other things showing none of those traits. The media is the establishment. I don't know if it'll work or whether Americans are determined to break the existing lock the establishment has on power. Time will tell and then if they do break it, will it work? lol The fear that has been instilled in Americans at the possibility of Trump winning is pretty pervasive. All the known negatives in Hillary (which many lefties don't want to know and blame on the right when they are brought up) are nothing to them versus the fear of the unknown.