Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Health care in the US

Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann and her ilk are delighting their followers with talk of ending Obamacare. None of this socialized medicine for their people. I am not sure who their people are, but here is an interesting article on what is happening to health care in this country under the do-nothing approach from Republicans.

Of course, that's not a Republican politician's problem. Their problem is keeping the money flowing from people like the Koch brothers who were responsible for getting oil derivatives as a way to make even more billions for themselves. It's working so well for the average American at the pump and actually for Republican politicians who can blame it on Obama instead of any of the actual causes-- and gambling on oil futures is definitely one of the causes.

The question I have is why do ordinary Americans support a system that means many American have no access to routine health care which so many take for granted if they work for the government or big corporations? Or does being against Obamacare mean you don't really give a damn about anybody but yourself and those who promise you money.


Kay Dennison said...

I agree with you but you knew that, I'm sure!

Here's a link I found yesterday that I think you'll enjoy!

Ingineer66 said...

For everybody that thinks that their taxes are too low, they can send a check to reduce the US national debt.
Send a check to:

Attn Dept G
Bureau of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188

Last year they collected $2.8 million. At that rate in 5.1 million years the debt will be paid off.

Ingineer66 said...

Did it get worse in Oregon? I zoomed in on Northern California and Nevada and from 1988 to 2007 it improved 3 to 4 colors.

Rain said...

What a great idea, ingineer. Instead of having a fair tax system that is balanced according to what one can afford to pay, we should go to an honor system. Everybody can just pay what they want. As a prep for it, we could have that in the schools too on tests-- not watch whether someone cheats but let them do according to what they 'feel' is right. It will help to train them for the honor tax system.

Incidentally I have seen an article recently where a number of billionaires wanted the taxes back to what they were before Bush lowered them and sent the deficit into a spiral. They won't be just turning over that money though. They want the system made fair. What an idea in our world where nobody wants to pay for anybody else.

Oh and another good idea. We can let people decide what they want their taxes to cover; so if I don't like one or the other program, I can just mark my taxes to not pay for it. I suspect our soldiers would be home from the wars a lot sooner on that system as so many who favor wars, they don't much like paying for them with their own dollars or their own blood.

For people who hate government, this is the best way I can imagine to see it gone. That's the talk from the right-- starve the beast. Of course, they won't like this idea so much because it might be their own projects that are being starved-- but fair's fair... right!? Just trust the masses to do what is right...

Ingineer66 said...

Come on Rain, that is a little extreme don't you think?

On the people getting a say in their tax money, I read a neat article about it several years ago. The author said his wife liked paintings so she want her share to go the artists that paint and he liked tanks so he wanted his to pay for the military to have tanks. That would be fun to watch, but would not work out so well if one year 100 million people wanted their money to go to the military and the next year it was only 100,000.

My point on the taxes was, there are so many liberals that say our taxes are too low, but apparently they are not willing to send more in themselves because it is easy to do. They just want other people's taxes raised not theirs. It is much like the carpool lane. Everybody thinks carpooling is a good idea, but if you ask them if they do it, almost nobody does.

Rain said...

I disagree. People won't send in more because they want the system set up to be fair. They don't mind their own taxes raising but when it's for things they believe and in a way that is equitable... and my example above was satire. It's the equivalent though of suggesting we should just send in more when we know it won't help unless we all do and we all won't.