Saturday, June 26, 2010

Extending Unemployment

Once in awhile I agree with Republicans and extending unemployment insurance benefits is one of those times. Here is the thing. Businesses pay part of that cost. Businesses, especially small businesses are already hard hit by this recession. Now the government wants to basically make unemployment benefits into welfare paid for by the businesses.

My feeling is businesses don't fire or lay someone off unless they must. That doesn't benefit them. Now the left wants them to permanently pay a monthly check to cover that person until who knows what date.

This is all based on sympathy and I am fine with sympathy. Help those out of work, who cannot find jobs, to figure out how to qualify for welfare benefits. Reduce the difficulty in getting welfare but permanently calling it unemployment is simply not fair-- nor is it smart! Unemployment was intended to be an emergency fund to tide someone over during a job search. It was not meant to last forever. Doing this unending extension will make a lot of businesses hesitant to even hire new employees knowing what might await them if they run into a hard spell.

I do feel sorry for people out of work but there is no reason we cannot allow them to qualify for welfare if that is the need during these hard times. Permanently putting part of the cost on business is simply not fair.

12 comments:

Paul said...

I am all for unemployment benefits, but in this economy how long can they be extended ? Certainly not indefinitely.The funds would eventually run out. It is a hell of a dilemma...

Rain said...

My feeling is take them off the back of business if they are to be extended. It's dishonest as it is to pretend it's what it once was. Call them recession relief or whatever but don't expect business to pay this added expense forever. I hear the left acting like how heartless the right is to not favor extending them but this is about business as much as the benefits. It is taking something that was never intended to be forever and turning it into another form of welfare.

Kay Dennison said...

Welfare -- at least in Ohio -- doesn't provide cash for rent, utilities, or miscellaneous unless one has children so elders and singles are out. When I lost my job all I could get was food stamps and not enough to feed me at that. Home energy assistance doesn't cover one's utility bills either. You still owe them a small fortune.

It's an ugly, complicated system --especially if you're not used to it. Maybe other states handle it better than Ohio, but I sorta doubt it.

What's the answer? Hellifiknow!

Rain said...

Then call it recession relief or give it a new name but keep business out of it. To call it unemployment benefits is another of the American liking for hiding what something really is. If they keep extending it as they now would be doing a third time, it is welfare at that point. Unemployment benefits were intended to be for a short period of time, not forever. I have no problem with them coming up with a name that fits it and separating it from Unemployment but to call it unemployment benefits changes that into something that guarantees once you had a job, you can forever afterward get a check. Are we ready for that? If not, then we better think it through long and hard.

Rain said...

and doubtless those on unemployment are already qualifying for food stamps. I don't know about housing allowances but my main complaint here is that it's a farce to keep calling it unemployment. How about the dole? *s* Just kidding but my complaint here is what we are connecting it to. Business didn't ask for this recession either.

Rain said...

Just out of curiosity, Kay, but what do single people who are unable to get a job, say never had a steady job and are out of work, what does Ohio do about them? Send them to other states? Let them starve? There are those who never work at a job long enough to qualify for unemployment. There will be more if they make unemployment benefits permanent.

Rain said...

I am not sure of the exact logistics of this but I did some research and it looks like they aren't asking business to cover the extensions. Although I am not sure, In Oregon, the most you can get for unemployment is $500 a week but most don't get that much. I think though that would be without taxes on top of it if it's regarded as an insurance benefit. It still obviously leaves many families hurting economically. It is a tough time but is an unemployment extension the right way to fix it? How about CC type jobs to do real work which would help the country as well as give those taking the money more pride, wouldn't it? Although given the fear the right has of socialism, I suppose they'd have a fit about that...

Ingineer66 said...

Here in California unemployment is up to 99 weeks. That is ridiculous. I know of people that are not even looking for work or have turned down job offers because they are getting so much on unemployment. What happened to the old days when it lasted 2 or 3 months. This nanny government that doesn't want any person or business to fail goes against everything that the United States was founded on and has made it the greatest nation on Earth.

Oh and the answer is: get a damn job. You do what ever it takes to put food on the table. If that means mowing lawns or working at McDonald's then so be it. Too many young people today will not even consider a job that requires actual labor or working in fast food.

Rain said...

Of course, ingineer, not everyone can do those jobs physically. As people age or if they have health problems, not all jobs are possible. But for younger people, who can, you are right-- take what you can get. And some won't do that as long as they are getting $2000 a month clear. I have heard of those who take a job just long enough to qualify for unemployment and then make the situation such that they get fired enabling them to have long breaks of not working. It seems like after that happened so many times, they should lose the 'benefit', doesn't it?

Rain said...

Farm Boss had someone work for him for a short period of time and was shocked when the guy applied for unemployment. He was stuck paying of course for that but it was a job never intended to be full time. Then to add to it, the guy came back around later hoping for work. Like you think! lol

Ingineer66 said...

Older people can work at McDonald's and many do.

As far as people working the system it is just infuriating to those of us that actually bust our butts and have our entire lives. Sometimes I think that we should just cull the herd, but who gets to decide whom gets shipped off to Siberia? I guess we just need to make it so that it is not as valuable to work the system.

Rain said...

Everyone cannot work 8 hours physically and some cannot do the jobs for various reasons including disabilities. I am fine with such receiving a check. What I am not fine is someone who prefers to sit home and not work unless the job is worthy of them or pays what their last job paid. I agree with you there that too much money in Unemployment encourages them to not care about getting any job.